Matt: Hello and welcome to the Filmword Podcast. On today's episode we will jump into some brief news and talk about what we saw for the past week. what today's reviews, the bigger reviews are on the last scent, winter K two or last descent the last descent, right? Is that
Jeff: I thought it was called the last first.
Matt: The last first. I just wrote it down wrong. the last first. Winter K two. that's on Apple TV. And then Lawrence Arabia and our top five today is top five sports films. I'm Matt.
Jeff: I'm Jeff.
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Jeff: Yeah, Matt's a big fan of Vid Angel. I haven't subscribed yet, so maybe I'll be the first one to sign up on your affiliate link, Matt. A little
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Jeff: insider trading. but no, I mean I think it's a it's a great thing. The movies we watched this week. Well, I guess actually Winter K two had some some some language that maybe Vid Angel would have cleaned up a little bit, but
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Jeff: yeah, let's let's dive in and talk about the last week. So I guess I'll kinda start real quick. we did watch Lawrence of Arabia and Winter K two, which is six hours runtime. So didn't have ton of time to sit and watch a bunch of other stuff, but I did watch well, I shouldn't say I didn't have time. I flew back from Jakarta last week on Sunday and so I did have some time. I sat and watched all of Chernobyl, which I would give a five out of five for those who haven't seen it. The reason I sat and watched Chernobyl was because I was watching I was looking at that New York Times top one hundred TV shows of the twenty first century or whatever. I don't know if you saw that one. but I it was a pretty accurate list. Number one is breaking bad, by the way. which I know you really like and Better Call Sol was on there as well in the top ten. But Chernobyl was I don't think it included limited series, obviously. but yeah, Chernobyl was like, I don't know, number five or six or something. And I said, Well, I'd I've always wanted to check it out. I watched episode one like years ago. and I have to say, like five out of five, excellent show. If you haven't seen it, definitely tune in to Chernobyl.
Matt: Yeah, I
Jeff: Did you have any thoughts on Chernobyl? I know you watched it a few years ago.
Matt: Yeah. No, I I agree. Definitely deserves a top spot in some of the one of the greatest series that's ever that's been produced in the pat especially in the past twenty five years. the just some of the scenes are just so memorable about the impact of Chernobyl. Like the the scene there's a scene where they go up on the roof to remove some of the debris and they're up there and just you know, they're getting radiation sensors going crazy and they're trying to like shovel were they shoveling pieces off the roof. I mean, just shoveling pieces off the roof. Just really and and just how horrific some of it was and the and and they point out a lot, you know, especially in that final episode, just some of the cover ups that were going on and very, very well done. brilliant performances and just a really intense story like throughout the whole the whole series.
Jeff: Yeah, really gave some interesting insight into that Cold War USSR mindset and how they operated and found it to be really insightful, really enjoyable. And then the other one that I watched was Disclosure Day, which is one of those ones that boggles my mind a little bit. how it got as good of reviews as it did. Did you watch Disclosure Day by chance?
Matt: I have not seen it yet.
Jeff: Yeah, like, you know, I post on this BYU sports board and I posted something about Disclosure Day and how I'd watched it and how I thought it was a terrible movie. And someone replied and said, Well, you must not watch many movies and I was like, Okay. I have a movie podcast. We're in episode what is this, episode four or five? no, I I mean maybe different people, different tastes. I love Steven Spielberg and I think he makes a great movie. That said, like some people, maybe it's time to start considering hanging it up or doing a different genre or something because disclosure day just didn't, you know, if he was trying to do like an E.T. kind of that that same I I mean, I know that Steven Spielberg isn't sitting down and saying, I'm gonna do E.T. part two, by any means, but it was it was kind of a similar vibe in terms of like that kind of intensity or that kind of energy, but the plot just like sorry, it just didn't make any sense. And I was just confused why they would choose this project of of all the projects you can work on in the whole world, you know, why are you choosing AI, the original, with Hailey Joel Osbund? Why are you choosing Disclosure Day? You know, like like there's so many movies you could pick. And this one just didn't really make sense for a project that that he would take on. To me it was maybe a project that or that Emily Blunt would take on, frankly. It was more a project that that maybe could have just been direct to Netflix kind of thing, not like the big motion picture you know, release that that they were expecting. And personally, I'd probably give it 2.5 out of five. I think it did pick up toward the end and become a little more interesting, but I spent about half the movie just being like, what is going on here? Like you kind of know what's going on, but it's it's just disjointed and weird and didn't really find any depth to the characters or story or anything. So that's about where I end up with disclosure day. well tell me about what you've been what you've been watching.
Matt: Well, after your story and review of Breadwinter with Nate Bargatzzi, I decided to I saw it pop up and decided to show my family. So we watched that a few days ago. And I agree pretty much with what you said. I and and I'm a big fan of Nate Bargatzi. I think he's hilarious. I love his stand-up. I thought he's he's done some great SNL bits. And I I'm coming in around the three three out of five stars on it. I felt like the first thirty minutes were were pretty funny. I was laughing pretty well through it. And then the last 45 minutes were just nonsensical. Like what like what are we doing? Why would we ever even approach solving problems like this? You know, it's just it just really made no sense. And I will say the the big takeaway For me, or I think the saddest part of it was that it just felt like an absolute waste of the talent of Zach Cherry from Severance, who plays Dylan on Severance, who's the the dealership manager on Breadwinner. And how can you take a guy like Zach Cherry who has demonstrated not only on Severance, but even on Fallout to a lesser degree? his that he has chops for for comedy, he has such a presence that can be utilized for different roles. And he just gets he he really isn't given many great lines at all in Breadwinter, which as a comedy I just I felt like it was underutilized, especially for how much I enjoy his character specifically in Severance. and Severance just across the board is is phenomenal. well acted, interesting story. Even season two, I think it was was interesting how they some of the the plot points that they brought in. I just heard this past week though that we have to wait another year, year and a half before we get season three on Severance. And I just
Jeff: Mm.
Matt: the three year gaps between seasons are insane, people. Let's pick up the pace, let's get another season out there. I can't wait. this long, I'm gonna end up being sixty years old before they wrap up Severance. The actors are are they're all Asian, we gotta move this thing along. But so back back to Breadwinter. enjoyed parts of it, but overall, kind of a mid mid tier show. any any returning thoughts?
Jeff: Well, I I did have one yeah, I did have one brief commentary on Breadwinner, which like if you haven't seen it, the the main plot is that Nate Bargatsy's wife is an inventor. She goes on Shark Tank and gets the steel and has to go to, I think, South Korea for a time to like, you know, follow her dreams and follow her business. And so Nate is left at home taking care of everything and you know, things fall apart. The the thing that gets me is that when she comes home the first time and then she has to leave again. Like why they didn't sit down and and kind of like come up with some kind of plan of attack of like I mean, again, it it follows the comedy. It's the plot point, I guess, of of like they're trying to make it funny, but unrealistic because if things were in that much disarray the first time, it's like maybe you should, you know, see if you can shore things up a little bit for the next time you leave. but yeah, I mean I I mentioned last time, I mean I thought I thought Will Forte did like a pretty good job. I think Colin Jose did a good job. I just like overall as a as a whole, I thought the movie was a bit of a letdown and again that's kind of what you expect when you go into a movie like The Breadwinner. Like you're not expecting something that's gonna get nominated for an Academy Award. but it was even Maybe even a little worse than I was expecting. So anyway, that's all I have to say about that. there's that forced gump
Matt: Yeah, I that's I did enjoy Lori from Shark Tank on it. And at the end they're about to do this live stream and she's talking to Manny Moore's character and she's like, Well, if we go do this live stream and we can get five hundred, you know, purchases off of it, then we're in business. And if we don't, it was really nice to get to know ya. I thought that
Jeff: Yeah.
Matt: the the the harsh reality of of Shark Tank. the
Jeff: Let's see.
Matt: The other film that I saw this week, I went to the theater and saw Heart of the Beast with Brad Pitt and his dog Odin, with J.K. Simmons strangely appearing for ten to fifteen minutes of unrelatable or unnecessary presence. But the you know, the the movie, the premise of the movie, Brad Pitt is is a veteran, I he's a Green Beret, is what they say. And his dog, Odin, is a combat dog. And they've both seen some horrific things. And the film is is set in Alaska. Somewhere in Alaska, I think is how the movie starts. And they fly in to this remote area just to to do some camping and some hunting out there. And on the way back They I thought, and hopefully this isn't too big of a spoiler. It happens in the first 30 minutes. I thought they were gonna get trapped in a storm. It was not a storm. He has a heart attack and the plane crashes, and then he has to work with Odin to hike about fifty or sixty miles to the road to get help. So that's pretty much the story. And lots of the the film I would say comes across like a promotional travel video for the great state of Alaska and its beauties, because a lot of it you're just looking at the beautiful scenery of Alaska. And it also pushes in a very respectful and admirable way, you know, the appreciation for veterans and appreciation for combat dogs, and have nothing but respect for that. I will say from a film perspective, it was a little little light on plot, a little light on substance, and probably didn't I mean it it looked like it seemed like it was struggling to reach the hour and a half, hour forty minute mark. they JK Simmons comes in and they have some conversation at the beginning in what could have evolved into a very creepy spin on the movie, but it did not.
Jeff: If you spell on every phone.
Matt: because they're out in the middle of nowhere and then all of a sudden JK Simmons just shows up and and you're like, Is he
Jeff: Maybe I'd just go with that because get great.
Matt: a crazy person? And he is, but he's not that crazy. So it and it's entertaining, that part. And the the whole story is is somewhat entertaining. The it reminded me a little bit of Homeward Bound and if only they had had those animals start talking like they did in Homeward Bound, maybe we would have
Jeff: bound and just I did add those animals like bounds and
Matt: had something, get Michael J. Fox and Sally Field to come in. maybe then we'd have something that would have gotten close to five out of five, but I'm giving it three out of five. Not really
Jeff: Given it three out five.
Matt: a rewatchable one for me. It again came across like a mixture between visit Alaska and Adopt a Combat Dog. And again, nothing but respect for for the veterans and for combat dogs and all you know, in the PTSD and everything that they they approach and talk about in the film. It just wasn't a very entertaining film.
Jeff: it again came across like the mixture between Disital Africa and adopted combat dog and again nothing but respect for for the best friends with combat dogs while you know in the PS and everything that they did throw you talked about in the film just wasn't a very entertaining so it sounds like the it sounds like the plot fell kind of short for you. What about like the like Did d did you find the cinematography interesting? I mean, you you mentioned there's a lot of like a lot I'm just really what I'm trying to do is find some kind of redemptive quality here because you mentioned it right after you saw it that you know the rotten tomatoes on this is eighty-five ninety four. So I'm a little you know, I mean it's a little baffling sometimes, and obviously we've all we've all done it, but how does a movie with ninety four percent audience rating just be as bad as you kind of have described it. I'm just wondering like what are the do you is it heartwarming? Like would you say it's like something where peop people maybe left the left the theater and said, Wow, I feel you know, that's like really like I feel really good about what I just watched.
Matt: Yeah, it is heartwarming. It's a I wanna say it's a feel good movie by any means. It's it's a sad it's sad. but the I think a lot of people like the relationship between Brad Pitt and the dog and and Odin. I think that that was I mean and and I will also say I'm not a dog person. And so that that connection and that bond is something that I don't I don't really feel and and maybe that has you know, fueled a little bit of the the lack of enthusiasm. But I I took a son to it. He is a he loves dogs. He also felt like it was a little boring and just didn't move along. It is beautiful. It's well done. I think the reality that that Brad Pitt could have a heart attack, crash his plane into a lake, and then in a Herculean effort r be able to survive everything that happened for for a long part of it is just kind of nuts. So
Jeff: Yeah, yeah.
Matt: But so I I I think that that lends itself to a a greater discussion that we could have now or some other time of just what is going on with some of these Rotten Tomato scores and ratings that are out there, because I've never seen so many films, especially right now on Rotten Tomato Tomatoes, have such high audience ratings. And I don't know if we've all just become a little too content with saying that was great. You know, just like you said with disclosure day, like Was that really? Like would I would I give that five out of five stars? But I I think and I looked at the top critics for this show for Heart of the Beast and I felt like it was a little more mixed. But they've mixed even that and Ron Tomatoes, the top critics that I would consider top critics with a a larger grouping of top critics. And and I feel like we're we're again we're just kind of pulling everything towards the top a little too easily.
Jeff: Well, and there might just be I I don't know exactly how their algorithm works, but it's possible that, you know, maybe maybe they consider three out of five to still be fresh and then it's a percent of how many people considered it to be fresh. So it's not really like an aggregate score since everyone does their own kind of out of ten, out of five, out of four, and so on.
Matt: Yeah.
Jeff: I will say disclosure day is seventy nine sixty nine. I can kind of get behind that a little bit more. but I still don't like the the professional critics who watch movies all the time gave it 79% fresh. Like I just I don't I can't get behind that. okay. so let's shift gears and talk about some stuff that's coming up this week or like coming up soon. I will say the one that probably mentioned every episode. I'm super excited to go see it, is you can see everything, the one about Elizabeth Holmes. and Nathan Fielder. Like I that's that's one's just on my mind. Like I'm probably gonna go see that on opening day. That said, I did look it up rated R for like language. I was like it's just for language, right? And apparently there's a scene that has nudity. So we're gonna see what we're gonna see what this movie's about. but from what I understand it is a very, very interesting movie. And so we're gonna we're gonna see what's going on there. so I'll probably I'll probably watch that one. That one's not until October sixteenth. So got a little you know, two weeks until that one. Two two episodes till that one comes out. but what do you have on your list?
Matt: One of the previews that came out for Heart of the Beast was Mr. Irrelevant, which I had not seen a preview for yet. And it's about the story of is it Tuttle? No, it's not Tuttle. Is it I had it all pulled up. That's alright. Anyway, Giants football player. He's the last pick of the NFL draft and he makes it onto the Giants and has the actor from Superman and It looked pretty I thought it looked pretty good. Especially today we're doing our top five sports films of all time. And I'm a sucker for sports films. I think that they're have a way of drawing out the emotion in in film. And this one looks like it it'll be another pretty enjoyable, interesting film. the other one that I saw that I was actually not aware of, which I'm ashamed to say, is is Vision Quest. I didn't even know that Disney was making this thing. follow on to Wakanda Vision and I guess if you consider the it was Agatha Long or Agatha along series that seemed unnecessary. follow on to those films, but we get the little additional storyline coming in for Vision, which we'll we'll see if that one takes off. I'll probably watch that one because I I liked I enjoyed WandaVision. I thought the end w got a little twisted. And I thought again, I said it in a previous episode, but multiverse of madness I did not really enjoy. I felt like it was an unfair wrap up to Elizabeth Olson's character, a Scarlet Witch. But the but that's fine. they they all have to go sometime. or do they? Or do they, Jeff? Maybe maybe she'll come back in Doomsday. but I'm curious to see where this one goes, where they take it. And so that was another one on the radar. I think it's just going I think it's just going Disney.
Jeff: Yeah, are you gonna go C vision quest? Is that one that's on
Matt: Disney Plus. It's a
Jeff: it's Disney Plus?
Matt: yeah, limited series. I think six six episodes. Or eight. Six or eight.
Jeff: okay. Okay. I did watch the one with with Elizabeth Olsen, WandaVision. Yeah. So I did see that one. which is rare for me 'cause I haven't watched many of shows. So you got
Matt: Yeah. That was the first real jump into the series post end game, right? it came before Loki,
Jeff: Yeah.
Matt: I believe. And it was interesting. It was unique. Very different. Like you spend the whole first episode having absolutely no idea what's going on, and the second one gets you a little deeper and deeper. I like those. I like this the the slow progress.
Jeff: well lead into the next movie that we're gonna talk about, Winter K two. I th I believe Tenzing, you know, I mentioned that one a few weeks ago, about the guy who who climbed Mount Everest with Edmund Hillary, and I think was it Mallory or Hillary that climbed it the first time? Anyway, the successful one.
Matt: Hillary. Sir Edmund Hillary.
Jeff: Yeah, Hillary. anyway. It's not the Sherpa. So we'll see how that one is. I did think that well, I guess are you okay if we go ahead and dive into the last first? Winter K two? No.
Matt: Yeah, let's let's do it.
Jeff: This is a movie that came out on Apple T V and this is a documentary, which we haven't we haven't done a documentary yet, so this is exciting. I I am a big fan of documentaries, Matt. Are you are you a fan of documentaries? Like are you a like do you do you watch documentaries regularly or
Matt: I do. I regularly watch World War Two, Civil War, and a lot of times nine eleven or just that kind of time of of American history documentaries. I I I am willing to watch pretty much any Ken Burns documentary that's ever been produced, no matter what the topic is. I love to death and I can watch them endlessly and pretty much could have the PBS subscription for my entire life just watching Ken Burns documentaries. So I think the documentaries are great. I know that that's that's a different vibe than this one and and others, but I like mountaineering ones a lot too. And so I I watch a variety of but I'm a huge documentary fan.
Jeff: well, Matt, we're that's why we're doing this podcast. Get you out of your shell a little bit, because if we didn't, you just sit and watch Ken Burns documentaries all the time. but you know, another just briefly, another interesting documentary I'd recommend at some point is Meru. I don't know if you ever watched that one. but that one's like I believe it's Jimmy Chin, is his name. And he's like another famous mountaineer, friends with Alex Honnold. And like And he's like a p pretty famous like mountaineering video producer now. but that's another one's kind of interesting if you're getting into the mountaineering documentary line. But yeah, looking at this one. yeah, go ahead. Mm-hmm.
Matt: Well and he did he did free solo also and he also I think he was one of the producers at least on that on the endurance documentary that that
Jeff: okay. Yeah. And then he's got one. Actually I saw I saw it that he's coming out with another one right now that looked really interesting too, but I can't remember the name right this second. But anyway, talking about the last first winter K two, yeah, I I have some thoughts about it. I I would kind of actually love to hear your thoughts, initially, like just kind of how you enjoyed it, what what your what your thoughts on on it were.
Matt: Yeah. I think so this is telling the story of the twenty twenty one winter K two summit attempts that were going on with essentially three competing groups. There is the they then they start out with the story of an Icelandic summoner and a Pakistani, the they're they're friends and I I'll I'll leave out the names just but John and And his climate partner,
Jeff: Ali.
Matt: yeah. Yeah, Ollie, yeah. And and they show up to K two pretty early in the winter to start to acclimate and and then they they go on, they talk about Nims who was if did you ever watch the Fourteen Peaks documentary?
Jeff: I I never watched it but I got some thoughts about NIMS. I know who NIMS was before the show, yeah.
Matt: Yeah. Yeah. So Nims if you he has a documentary on Netflix, that talks about him going and doing the fourteen, I think eight thousand meter or above peaks in within a year, I think. I I may have gotten that wrong, but very interesting personality. I did not also realize that he passed he w died in an avalanche just a few months ago. and but NIMS shows up with this kind of Nepalese group. to also make a push. So this they are all pushing for to be the first person to summit K two in the winter. not in the not in the summer. Summer has been done many times, but the winter was still one of those last frontiers of mountaineering that's never been done. And they talk about it being during COVID and how that kind of drove you know, they started releasing these permits to climb and that drove this frenzy. And so the the big story or part of it also, there are lots of stories on on there. Is that Seven Summits Trek, Seven Summit Trek also got a lot of permits, and they got a lot of inexperienced climbers out there to also kind of make this push for for the winter K2. And so I think just one thought to start off with was you know, these people pushing the limits, pushing themselves to their limits, and Trying to find the balance between pushing your limits to achieve these goals and versus understanding the the res the danger of that and making wise decisions as to whether or not you will proceed or turn back. And I should preface all this by saying, just like with Heart of the Beasts, I am not a mountaineer. And and so I I read into thin air when I was younger. I thought that was a very interesting account of the nineteen ninety six Mount Everest disasters and the people that that died on on the mountain back then. And I felt like this was a similar, in some ways similar account of just trying to decide, am I gonna keep going or am I gonna turn around? And so that that was kind of my first thought. I have a few others, but anything you wanna jump in with, Jeff?
Jeff: Yeah, so I I came into this movie without really knowing obviously I know what K two is. I've known about K two for some time and I've known it's extremely deadly. and, you know, a a mountain that is extremely ambitious, maybe the most ambitious of the of the mountains that are over eight thousand feet or eight thousand eight thousand meters, which is saying a lot because these mountains are all just crazy. I from my understanding. I don't think that it's something that I could train for a year and go climb one. I just these are, I mean, even inexperienced mountaineers are certainly quite experienced to have the level of endurance to just climb the mountain. I say that again without really knowing. Maybe, maybe it is something that if you're in pretty decent shape, you could with supplemental oxygen go and do it. But you actually kind of see what happens when you allow inexperienced climbers to come on the mountain with the seven summits group. again I don't want to spoil it for for those who might go and watch it, but essentially they did let some people who were inexperienced on they took a long time to climb different legs, and that led to some really painful things and decisions and and and some deaths as well. So so it's it's interesting. It's an interesting story. Obviously a sad story whenever whenever people don't make it on the mountain there. I love a good story about mountaineering. It's something that I'm not into, but have always kind of had a bit of you know, jealousy for for those who are, because I just find it to be such an interesting topic and people who are conquering something that's essentially from my perspective completely unconquerable. To do something like climbing Mount Everest is just like far and away out there. to so to see these guys who who can achieve it and make it happen. It's like the pinnacle in human achievement in many ways. I want to talk a little bit about NIMS because I followed him on Instagram for a long time and was familiar with his story and saw that he came out with the Netflix documentary you re you referenced. And then when he died a few months ago, just saw on online forums about how a lot of people were like, Well, his time was coming because He was full of ego and had you know, he he took risks that were unnecessary and he put other people in in perilous situations. And I'm not I'm not gonna make a judgment about who he was as a person necessarily, except for the context from this movie and from you know from the other context that I know about. what I will say is that. It gives an interesting I didn't even know that NIMS was part of this story. Like I I had no idea when I came into the documentary. And so to learn a little bit more about kind of how he operated and how he did business brings a lot of insight. And I think it shows that he was an incredible should we say he was an incredible mountaineer? I mean, he certainly had the physical, physiological capability to to do a lot of this stuff. I think many mountaineers and people in the industry would say that he took unnecessary risks in order to achieve fame and and glory and and so on. And you kind of get a glimpse of this as well in the in the movie of how he is yeah, just how some of the Sherpas who sacrifice everything for him and kind of are on his team, maybe don't get quite the same publicity and and and pride and like yes, they did it for the country of Nepal, but in the end he he also kind of did it for himself. And you really get an insight into that. And I I'm again, I'm not gonna judge what the Nepalese did in that movie. I mean, I think they had goals and they achieved their goals. it's not always prudent to bring along other people on your, you know, like, hey, I'm gonna go climb this mountain. Is it prudent to bring along anyone that wants to come? Like, no. Like you you don't have no obligation to do that. But it it was just kind of an interesting insight from my perspective.
Matt: Yeah, and I I don't feel like I can judge Nims as a mountaineer. I feel like he did have a lot of amazing accomplishments, but I felt like the documentary definitely pointed out some of his ruthlessness as it came to climbing and and achieving the winter K two summit for Nepal and not allowing anyone else to stand on that summit with his assistance. at that time and making that a big point. Cause he does he had done 14 he had done K two in 2019 or around that time. And it's chronicled in in that 14 peaks. The the winter K two being one of the last pioneering expeditions was significant. They talk about that in the movie that this is one of the last things to to really accomplish to be the first to do. And to get a little more recognition for the Nepalese and and their contribution to mountaineering, I think is I think I I can see that. I think that lots of lots of mountaineers have a lot of pride in their country and want to claim things for their country. I just and and they also you know, some of the rumors that are out there about that I even found as I was reading a little bit more about the situation and the scent, they they dispel some of those rumors about You know, he talked a big talk, but in the end he didn't necessarily, you know, prevent anybody from going. He just they you know, some people had had conversations about going up together and then they took off, right, and and didn't bring others with them. But, you know, they talk about ropes and stuff. So he pull ropes or do you cut the ropes and they they dispel some of those myths. And and so I I I don't know, I'm torn on it. I think the
Jeff: Yeah.
Matt: the documentary does do a really good job of showing the dangers of K two. And which I w honestly I've I've heard for years and years. K two is vicious, it's it's cruel, it's unpredictable. And they show you a lot of that in the documentary, just the rocks that are coming down, the avalanches that are going on everywhere, the storms that come. And so I I felt like in general the the documentary did a good job of presenting the dangers of K two and also
Jeff: And the documentary the bots that are coming down that have less are going on everywhere supporting well. And but I feel like in general the documentary group that is too and also.
Matt: shining a a light on the good decisions and the bad that some of these mountaineers are making while trying to achieve the summit.
Jeff: I will just point out two interesting things I learned about mountaineering while watching this movie slash doing research around it. the first is that when so th thirteen of the thirteen of the fourteen last deaths on K2 happened at the bottleneck. So I thought that was pretty interesting. The bottleneck is like this area where it's almost like they've created a bypass and you have to like scooch along this like crevasse. Well, it's not a crevasse, but it's more like this like cliff side of of like ice and snow that could essentially fall on you at any given moment. and yeah, 13 of the last 14 deaths have happened there. And then the other interesting thing I found out about mountaineering is that when a new season starts, you know, you can't really trust the ropes that have been left behind from previous mountaineer mountaineering treks. And so it's it's always incumbent on essentially one or two people shirpas. To like go and lay the ropes with essentially free climbing. I mean, they're they're harnessed, they're secured in in some way, but like when it comes to like that bottleneck, for example, like someone has to cross it with no ropes, which is completely insane. And so think about that, you know. I think when you think about NIMS and his team, like, well, his team was incredible, but it certainly wasn't NIMS going out and laying those ropes. Like it was these extremely, extremely talented mountaineers. these Sherpas who were kind of pioneers every day of like going out and laying those ropes. So I will give
Matt: Yeah. And and I think
Jeff: this a I'll give it a four out five. I thought it was an enjoyable watch, Matt.
Matt: Yeah, no, I I agree. Yeah, I think it definitely at least four out of five. I'll I'll stick with that also. It's definitely a good story. And I to your point, I think that they do a good job. The film the filmographer for Nim's crew talks about how he's left behind, right? He doesn't get to he doesn't get summit. He's is he British or American? And and he talks a little bit about how if if somebody does not Nepalese or Pakistani summits, then they take the the spotlight. And all the Sherpas who are doing all this work, like you said, they all fall into the into the shadows. And so they really did I mean, it's it's tough. I think it's a interesting debate. who who deserves the credit the these pioneering Europeans or Americans versus the Sherpas that really enable all these things to actually happen. And so the I And I I think the documentary does a good job of addressing that. So yeah, I'm I'm with ya, four out of five for this one.
Jeff: Yeah, and these these these inexperienced climbers that we talked about, they weren't even carrying, you know, that's part of the problem is they're not even carrying their own equipment. The Sherpas are carrying the equipment for them. And so when they got into this bad situation, the reason was that the Sherpas like, This is dumb, we're not gonna do this because they know the mountain so well. And the inexperienced climbers just kept going. And you've gotta know like when to go, when to turn back. It's it's interesting. It's in very interesting topic and Colin O'Brady is another one that I follow on Instagram and have watched his his you know pursuits through the years and I remember when this K2 thing came came up. So pretty interesting. All right, well let's jump into the next one, Lawrence of Arabia. I can go first on this one since you went first on the last one. even though I told you to. all right, so Lawrence of Arabia, I'll dive into this. it was made in 1962 and Chronicles the the heroic efforts of Lawrence Arabia. Actually didn't his what what was his real name?
Matt: The T. E. Lawrence.
Jeff: T E Lawrence, that's right. And yeah, it it it won Best Picture for that year. has some like incredible epic scenes and pre CGI. I thought one of the things that's most incredible about this movie is that pre CGI they have these like massive scenes and these epic shots where they just have like thousands they must have had thousands and thousands of extras. It's it's four hours long, so it is a long story. It is kind of from my perspective a mix of kind of a little bit slow and drawn out, but also has some pretty interesting parts. And I think for me, you know, the the thing that caught me most about this movie was just the arc of of Lawrence and how he essentially and we can dive into this topic a little bit more, but starts out as this like kind of young idealist who leads his soldiers into battle and has some pretty strong success early on and is praised and loved by everyone. And then eventually kind of the story arc flows so that he eventually gets captured, tortured, some bad things happen to him, and and over time he just pretty much has a breakdown and says, like, I can't do this anymore, and kind of shows the the the loss of self or the loss of kind of his idealism. And yeah, it's kind of an kind of an unexpected story arc. I is another one where I don't think I've ever watched it in in its fullness. And so kind of watching that story arc I thought brought up some really interesting illusions. from from my perspective back to like we just talked about paths of glory. We've talked about all quiet on the Western Front a little bit, like kind of this World War One. I think that's maybe just how the perception was of World War One, which I think was very true, which is you enter the war, an idealist, and you come out this like hardened, broken person and or crazy. And and that's kind of the way that you see the story arc of Lawrence. going to to some extent. overall I really enjoyed the movie. I will say it is not for the faint of heart. Like you've really gotta I didn't I didn't watch it all in one sitting nor do I think I could. So but it was it was an interesting one. I'm glad it's is something that I can say I've I've knocked off the list.
Matt: Yeah. And I I agree. It felt at least this time and maybe there's just a lot going on this week, but it felt more like a chore making it through the four hours. I wasn't quite expecting it to to feel quite so long. Honestly, I think they could break it into a miniseries nowadays, like a four parter. That would be great. They could make this into a ten parter. I'm surprised, honestly, that we haven't seen a mini series come out that's the Lawrence of Arabia story retold. I think it would be very hard to top what they've done with this film. The and the amount of effort, the production. I love the production side of it. David Lean, who I who's made other amazing films also, Bridge Over the River Qui that we've mentioned, then he made did this one and then he does Dr. Chivago and these Amazing shots, right? You mentioned the the s the thousands of extras. I didn't realize that the that Jordan had given you know, Jordanian army was came and served as extras in this film. And they went out to to Jordan. They did they shot in Spain and Morocco. These three it was a three hundred day plus shoot that they did. They built these little communities out in the desert. Right. And so I love the idea that they came back to the actual areas and found like even some of the trains that were used previous that have been blown up off the tracks. that that they brought this whole film production to 40 years later to the same spot that the original Lawrence of Arabia was actually in and experienced. And you see that. You see that in these amazing shots. I love the idea, kind of framing the character arc that you mentioned.
Jeff: Yeah and if you're in that you see that and it's amazing shot. I love the idea of kind of the character art that you mentioned where he says he has other
Matt: where he says, you know, talks about the secret or the trick is not minding that it hurts, right? And they have this beautiful scene. I did I also did not realize that David Lean was a film editor leading up to his start as a director. And so he's he's doing these these brilliant cuts and the the trick is not minding that it hurts and he blows out this match and then they cut to the desert and the rising sun, right? And I
Jeff: the Earth right and they had this beautiful screen. I did also did not realize that data which he was a film editor maybe enough to discard the director. And the first combining the Earth and you blow it out the path and to the desert and rise of sun, right? And
Matt: just love That that's where it starts. And then you have this arc where it does start to hurt for
Jeff: It's perfect for it.
Matt: for Lawrence. And as it hurts more and more, his resolve and his composure just start to really crumble and to the point that he really is struggling towards the end of this this film. And it's just an interesting thing to see all packaged into a film.
Jeff: You also have to put a film that isn't so frustrated.
Matt: that isn't so rushed that it feels like you should just get to the end already. It's like, no, they're gonna draw it out. They're gonna show you how this character rises and then falls. And so I I love to see that character development in a film like this.
Jeff: one line that I pulled out of the end, this is from my kind of reflections with with Claude. I was just talking about the movie and, you know, trying to piece together some of my sentiments. And I thought, you know, one piece that we should acknowledge is like at the end, Lawrence is you know, he's such an important figure to the Arab Revolt. This is like nineteen again, World War One and the Arabs Which I guess contains like essentially the current Middle East and Saudi Arabia were fighting against the Ottoman Empire, which was aligned with the Axis or the the Germans, and the British and the French were aligned with with the Arab revolt. And Lawrence gains all this trust from the Arabs and over time is i extremely important figure to them, like war figure and kind of can't be touched and so on. But then later on, he is kind of cut out of the negotiations. I think there's a there's like a council at the end of the Arab different tribes and and it fails to to meet a compromise. And then at the end there's a scene where I I guess it's just like the British, the French, and then the leader of the one of the Arab tribes at least, who decide to come to a compromise or an agreement. And there's this line that I was like, well, is this actually from the movie or is this just what Claude said? And I guess it's Claude paraphrasing, but the line is war is for young men and bargaining is for the old ones. And I think it's it's interesting because w the approach that Lawrence takes is like I'm going to be this like war leader, and I'm going to lead everyone into battle. But then, you know, bargaining is bargaining is actually where I guess the Anyway, I I I think it's insightful. I was thinking about, for example, like my teaching career when I was a when I was a teacher for several years. And you kind of think about like being a classroom teacher, that's for young men, sort of. But then like the decisions that a school district makes or that the country or the state or the country make, that's for like the old men. That's for like the the big time decision makers. so even though he was like this like heroic. interesting leader. It didn't translate to like this other phase of his life where he became an actual like leader who could make big time decisions. He was just like a war leader. And again that's that was kind of like who he was. And that idealism is different from you know being an actual decision maker.
Matt: Yeah. Well, and he's instrumental in so much of this uprising and the the fighting with these different tribes and and the rising up and you know the British and French acknowledge that, right? But they then they turn around and they're making these agreements, right, between the the people and the kind of their their lofty towers, deciding what's best for these people and their and their land. And I the the film does dive into imperialism, right? And I think there's some very interesting historical context to to pull from Lawrence of Arabia, also, even just the fact that this person who who was at least like I said, instrumental in assisting in in these uprisings and in fighting and winning so many of these battles is part of the imperialistic power, right? That he he tries to shrug it off and act like he's not a part of it, but in the reality he is. And he is he's very much a part of the British imperialism and and just trying to find the that right balance. And like you said, kind of with your career and with lots of different tasks that we have for work and that you see it in the history also, all this work is done. And then you can just wipe it all away with a few swipes of the pen, you know, with the signature on a treaty. And and does the power go to the right people? And are the resolutions the ones that the people fought fighting in these conflicts, are they the ones that they actually were intending whenever they signed up to to go in battle?
Jeff: I will say, you know, one detail I left out of my my earlier talking was that Lawrence was was definitely pro-Arab independence. All right. He wanted all the tribes to be independent, whether independent nations or like come to an agreement together to be an Arabian nation. And that was what he was fighting for, was like their independence. And there's a lot of idealism in fighting for independence, and then certainly there's a lot of like Let down when the reality of imperialism comes into the conversation. You're like, well, too bad that we, you know, I I think that's part of it. Like he's watched all these people die, sacrifice their lives for independence, sacrifice their lives for an ideal, and then just completely gets sideswiped and says, Well, actually, nope. well, I guess let's get to our ratings. What what were your what do you think on this one?
Matt: I'm sticking with my five out of five. This was in my top five of all time for best picture. So I I'm sticking with it. I I was in awe of the of so many of the the shots and I think they even though they certainly take their time with it, it is a beautiful, interesting story arc. And so I'm s I'm stick that. How about you?
Jeff: for me I'd probably give it a four out of five. I can definitely see why it's, you know, an epic film and one that you know, I think I think actually our grandma I think said that this was one of her favorite movies of all time. there you go. no, so I can understand why it is certainly a cherished film over time. But I think just because it's it's so long and drawn out, And at times I felt like maybe a little bit overacted by Peter O'Toole. he he had a background
Matt: Yeah. Flamboyant.
Jeff: he had a background in in theater and you can you can tell sometimes that he's just being so dramatic. but overall found it to be a very insightful, interesting movie and another piece of definitely iconic piece of cinematic history for sure. All right, let's move on to our top five sports lists. And Matt, I don't know, do you watch a lot of sports movies?
Matt: I have historically seen a lot of sports movies. I don't know if it's always my top pick these days, but I as I was building my list I felt like that list just kept on expanding to more and more films. And so I'm excited. How about you?
Jeff: Yeah, I think that my issue is is that I have watched a lot of movies, you know, when I go I went through there's a there's a link to the one hundred fifty best sports movies of all time from Rotten Tomatoes, and I clicked on that link and I was like, you know, I've actually seen a lot of these, but truthfully it's been a really long time. So as with a lot of movies that we've kind of ranked so far, I feel like I've just got to go off like feel and memory. on a lot of these. there are some that I've watched more recently that stick a little bit more in my brain. and then others that like it's just a lot of sports movies are very inspirational. And so you kind of come away from it saying like, you know, I feel like inspired and I have this like ple very pleasant memory of of watching this movie. But if I watched it again today, like I'm just giving like that disclaimer. that some of these movies that I say, if I watched again, like this re this very second, I might actually not necessarily still put it in my top five, but as as per my memory and as per my current rankings, this is my top five. So
Matt: Hey, I will not judge you too much if your number one is The Legend of Bagger Vance, the the greatest golf film of all time. I'm sure it was top of your list as well.
Jeff: There there are a lot of honorable mentions. I'm just looking through the list here. You've got I mean maybe some of these are on your list, but for example, like a league of their own, you know, the rookie, Jerry Maguire is a sports movie, you know. It's just like there's so many like classic movies that are really fun and did not make my list. So with that, I guess, Matt, let's let's dive in. What what do you got for number five?
Matt: Alright, number five, Rocky IV. America versus the Soviet Union in the classic battle of world powers. I I am and I have watched Rocky IV in the past year. They actually have a an edition that's out, I think, on Netflix or on Prime, that revisits it. Very little added, but it's a revisit to Rocky IV. And just a quick shout out also to a Creed two that brings in some of the story from Rocky Four, which I thought was kind of a fun way to do it. But this is Rocky vs. Drago, and so much of it centers around his training and just the him I mean, it's so it's more inspirational in that regard more than anything. It's not the world's greatest acted film or anything like that, but they they get it right in terms of motivation. And it's it's honestly I think the original Rocky is probably the best Rocky of all the films, but I love Rocky Four for what it's meant in my life and just the the impact of getting out there and training. All right, number five for you.
Jeff: I like it. I like it. Rocky Four is a classic. Did not make my list. Not to not to spoil it, but I do love Rocky Four. And you know, I think it had the best Survivor song. Burning Heart. I think is Rocky IV. And
Matt: Yeah. Yeah. Heart's on fire, right?
Jeff: I I don't remember. Sometimes though I'm at the gym, I think it's called Burning Heart. wait we have we'll have to look it up.
Matt: Yeah, I think you're right. And it's heart's on fire, right? Burn anyway. Yeah.
Jeff: Anyway, we'll have to look it up. but sometimes I'm in the gym and Burning Heart by Survivor comes on and I'm just like, yeah, like I'm I'm feeling it. So all right. My number five is Rudy. the classic Sean Aston film about him. I I think, you know, I've been struggling with this thing in my life about how much can I control and how much is just out of my control. And you know, I think Rudy probably tricked me into believing you can control anything in your life. Right. Like if you work hard enough, you can achieve your dreams. And that is definitely the message of Rudy. and many of these sports movies actually. But you know, I I love the story. I love this is this kid who's just kind of coming from this I guess what do they do? Like steel manufacturing? Is that what they were is that what they were doing? But like working in a steel
Matt: Yeah, some sort of refinery.
Jeff: plant, yeah, refinery of some kind and his family's just poor and he comes from nothing and really just says, I'm gonna play football for Notre Dame and his brothers and his dad, everybody laughs at him and they're just like, You're never gonna make it. And he just keeps at it and keeps at it. I find it this story to be very inspirational, even though he only gets in for like a play or two. I mean, it's still just like an awesome story. And really hope that BYU beats Notre Dame in two weeks, by the way. So Take that. Take
Matt: We shall see.
Jeff: that, Rudy. All right, number four, Matt. What you got?
Matt: I put Moneyball in for number four, Brad Pitt, Amazing Hair Cut in Moneyball. And I love the this is an Aaron Sorkin script. I love the and you have a lot of big names in it, but just the way that they presented I mean I just I think that the way the film was made, it just really spoke to me. And I love the the story of Brad Pitt's character, Billy. I can't remember is a Billy
Jeff: I think his name was Billy.
Matt: Yeah, his first name is Billy. I can't remember. Anyway, he you know he's this aging manager for the athletics and and really has not ha he he started out with a ton of promise as an actual ball player, transitioned into into one into the manager. So he's picking the players that go on the team. Phillip Seymour Hoffman's in it also as the actual coach. And it's, you know, it's all about winning by numbers, by stats, a very controversial take at the time of the film of the book and the film. And I just I love how he he's trying to kind of redeem his career. There's a part where he talks about his age and he's You know, I'm I'm forty something years old and he's just he's just struggling. I I I think it just speaks to me in terms of trying to find success in a struggling f career, and just trying to achieve your dreams and finding different paths to do it, and trying to stay relevant in in shift in a shifting landscape. And I think they they just address so many things in the way the Sorkin often does. And so I really I love the the movie, end to end. I think it's extremely the everything the w the dialogue and everything is just so so taut through the whole film. So I think it's spectacular.
Jeff: Yeah. Well, you you did a great intro to my number four as well, which I also chose Moneyball. I don't know if I have
Matt: Look at us.
Jeff: many additional yeah, I know. Number four is like a special one for us 'cause I think our other our other one was number four as well that we picked the same. a few good men. Maybe was it?
Matt: f it was far and away.
Jeff: Far and away. but yeah, Moneyball, great, great film. I thought Michael Lewis was really on a tear there for a minute with his Big Short and then Moneyball and maybe a couple others. But I mean Michael Lewis, great author, obviously. And Aaron Sorkin is one of our favorites, which Matt, I hate to say it, but we didn't even mention Social Reckoning comes out tomorrow. And so I I've heard some mixed reviews on it so far. I guess we'll have to see, but it's the latest by Aaron Sorkin. So guess we'll see. Guess we'll see what people think about it. I've heard it's not quite as compelling as as the social network, but we'll see. But I do I yeah, I have great fond memories of Moneyball as well. love kind of the the way that it was presented. I love the writing, the dialogue, and I I just think the story's really compelling. So all right, well let's let's dive over to number three.
Matt: Number three is Warrior. Have you seen that one?
Jeff: I I don't think I have.
Matt: Alright. Warrior is it's an MMA film with Tom Hardy and Joel Edgerton and
Jeff: Hmm.
Matt: if I got that name right, and it's these brothers, Estrange Brothers, Nick Nolte's the dad, alcoholic a strange dad also, a kind of a family that is absolutely and probably unrealistically to that degree, just completely dismantled and torn apart. And it's this the story of all these guys that are down and out but are MMA UFC type fighters and are there's a comp there's a Atlantic City competition going on and they all enter and the brothers enter it and it's just their separate stories. the Tom Hardy's character is dealing with a lot of PTSD, a lot of struggles from his time in the military. And then Joel's character is struggling with not being able to pay bills and just being down and out in his career. He's a school teacher and likes to still fight on the side. And it's just a very raw I feel like, even though it's a little contrived, very realistic in the emotions of these these characters that are trying to to be to be winners, and follow follow some of their their personal dreams of of of greatness in in as as fighters.
Jeff: Yeah. I well I'm looking at the the poster now and and some of the scenes and I'm like, well twenty eleven. I think I actually did watch this movie. I think we watched it back in twenty eleven and I just didn't remember it, but I'll have to check it out again. All right. my number three, I put I put Rocky, the the familiar. I feel a little bad including Rocky on two lists, but love the story. I mean, just find it to be again, probably another like Rudy-esque teaching me when I'm young that you can really control anything. In fairness, I love the I love the idea that you know, going back to that I play Rocky movie, which probably came out and I haven't seen it. I think it's on Amazon Prime, if I'm not mistaken. but you know, I love that this idea of like you can control your destiny. Whether it's the story of Sylvester Sallone, whether it's the story of Rocky himself, of just, you know, you're given a chance, you gotta take it, you gotta work really hard to to take advantage of it. again, can you control everything? Can you control every outcome? Like absolutely not, but you've gotta at least take the chances that you're given. And yeah, just watch this movie fairly recently and and really just enjoy it and had to put it back on my list, but Yeah. I'll try not to talk about Rocky every episode. I mean it's not like it's my maybe my all time favorite movie, but I think it's a great great sports movie.
Matt: Absolutely agree. Rocky always has a a place in in my heart. I think it's really what started it all for these very motivational films about about boxing and just kind of working and seeing Sylvester Stallone and and his depth that you really don't see in some of his other films. that's just a really awesome film. All right. Number two for me, Cinderella Man.
Jeff: That's a good one.
Matt: with Russell Crowe, Paul Giamani, and directed by Ron Howard. I I really enjoy Cinderella Man. In fact, it's probably the sports film that I get the most emotional watching just because he he's at the top of his game. This is a you know based on a true story and it's built around the Depression era and the this Russell Crowe's character really doing very well as a boxer, but then the depression hits and the bottom falls out of everybody so many people's lives. And he goes and works at the docks and is trying to get back in as a professional boxer and gets his chance and rises back to become the heavyweight champion. And it's just it's a really good story about him doing all this to protect his family, to take care of them, and even as an aging boxer, just sticking with it and not allowing setbacks to derail his dreams of of greatness.
Jeff: Well, I do remember watching Cinderella Man. I do remember really enjoying it and feel a little bad because I have again very little recollection of it. I should probably like start a movie journal or something. but it's one of those that I hope that I can re watch here soon soon because that that is bringing back some memories and I just honestly didn't remember it. So yeah, I'll have to have to go back and look at that one. number two for me, I put free solo. that one came out a few years ago. I just found that one to be so fascinating. And when you're not even climbing but your heart rate's at 120, because you're just like, my gosh, what is what is going on? What is gonna happen to this guy? Cinematography absolutely incredible. You know, just like getting those guys on on harnesses and ropes up there just filming him doing the doing Really like the first mass market free solo, I guess you could say. And obviously like you kind of knew the ending from the beginning. that they probably want to make a movie about a guy who does a free solo and and and dies, but I just can't even wrap my head around this achievement and this movie. and how how fascinating it was. maybe not so much the parts of like just learning about you know, everything about him necessarily, but just the the actual climb itself was I think just an incredible achievement both in, you know, both for him both for himself and his achievement in climbing, and also just in in I guess mountaineering cinematography history. So found that one to be like extremely fascinating and again, I'm definitely a sucker for the mountaineering movie. So free solo lands number two for me.
Matt: Yeah. Well and it's still available, I believe, on Disney Plus and there are scenes in that while he's actually climbing where you I mean, I agree, you almost can't breathe. You're so you look at some of these holds that he's doing and where he's putting his feet and you're like, How is this even possible? And to do it with no ropes is just it was it got the the pulse up for sure.
Jeff: Yeah. What's your number one?
Matt: All right. Number one for me is Rudy. I love Rudy. Love the soundtrack. It's actually one of my favorite movie soundtracks. Jerry Goldsmith. And I've listened to that soundtrack so many times, and I love Sean Ashton in it. I think that he does not get enough credit for how remarkable of an actor he is to kind of across the board from the Goonies. through Lord of the Rings, even on Stranger Things. I loved his role on Stranger Things also. And he he just does a just amazing job bringing the the soul of this character to light. And I agree. It's like to what you to your points earlier, you know, his achievement at the end of it, going in for a few plays or a play, a couple plays for this Notre Dame game is is you know, I think a lot of people, if you're a professional NFL player, you'd be like, What what was that all about? You you spent all that time and effort. But man, he set a goal and he went after it. And the danger I think sometimes is that some of us set goals that are unattainable. And he sets one that really should be unattainable for him, but he he reaches it and he reaches it through grit, through hard work, through dedication. And for that, I just think that it's it's one of the greatest sports films out there.
Jeff: Yeah. Man, I'm just thinking now about how he like gets that job as a janitor. Essentially like cleaning, you know, he's like cleaning helmets, cleaning toilets, cleaning the stadium. You know, it's he's just what a story arc of a guy who just grinds and grinds and grinds and fun story. All right, well, my number one is the Sandlot. So I just love this story because You've got I don't know, this idealism of childhood, of summer, of just being free and having fun and you know, friendship and the silliness of being a child. And even though like I'll admit like the I mean, in some ways it's almost like the same as the breadwinner, where it's just kind of like situational comedy. to some extent, it's it's a it's a fun story and one that I think is like cherished by a lot of kids and especially kids in our or a lot of adults who, you know, watch this as kids and just kind of have this ideal or idealistic moment about baseball and teamwork and friendship. I love some of the classic scenes, Smalls in the Pool, you know, with Wendy Peppercorn. and you know, just like every scene where they're trying to get the baseball back and they're like coming up with all these like silly inventions and things that doing anything they can to to get the ball back. And no, I just I just have a special place in my heart for it and really haven't always enjoyed that one.
Matt: I'm I'm with ya. I think that's it is and it has a lot more soul and a lot more depth than Breadwinter. Really lets us see these characters and care about each one of them and it gives each of them enough time to shine, also. Plus there's also the great late James Earl Jones in Sandlot at the end, who has a a memorable and and beautiful role in in that film as well.
Jeff: Yep, yeah, classic. All right. Well anything else you want to talk about before we wrap up?
Matt: Think we're good. I mean, I we could list out all the other honorable mentions. There was cool runnings, there were lots of you know, I some of the ones that you mentioned, there are so many amazing sports films that are out there, but I think I I agree with with the list. I think it was good. Good representation of what's out there.
Jeff: Yeah, yeah. Well there's there's a hundred fifty on Rotten Tomatoes if you wanna go have a look over there. And funny enough, I haven't even heard of like half of them. So I don't know what's going on over there. But they they have good ratings. So if you trust the ratings, then go for it. All right, we'll wrap it up for today. Thanks everyone for listening. Please give us a like, give us a subscribe if can, and until next week onward and filmwork.
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